16 comments

  • OnlineTux 20 minutes ago

    Why not just add nano?

      jmclnx a minute ago

      Size:

      Linux:

           -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 321832 Dec 15  2021 /usr/bin/nano
      
      per the link, atto(1) is 48 kilobytes.
      Matl 14 minutes ago

      Because the BSD's are reflexively anti GNU.

        ninjin 11 minutes ago

        nano(1) is GPLv3 last time I checked and that imposes more restrictions than most (all?) of the rest of the code in NetBSD. It is not about being "reflexive", it is a violation of the very ethos of the project. Gnu rejecting non-free licenses from their own distributions is not "reflexive", it is simply not in line with what they want to achieve and one should respect that.

          Matl 6 minutes ago

          Unless they modify it, the GPL really doesn't impact them. AFAIK FSF considers most BSD/MIT style licences to be compatible. It's the other way around where things gets stuck. Unless they need Linux GPU/WIFI/BT drivers to make things work, of course. Then it's fine.

            ninjin 2 minutes ago

            Modification is the whole point of open source: "Unless you want to modify Windows, the closeness does not impact you". If you want to learn about how NetBSD looks at things, there is this page:

            https://netbsd.org/about/redistribution.html

            As for being compatible. Yes, FSF considers anything permissive to be compatible with their family of licenses, but it is one-way relationship in that permissive code can be freely used by GPL projects, but not the other way around. As using GPL code would impose further restrictions compared to a permissive license.

  • Rucadi 23 minutes ago

    For me the most easy-to-use editor for cli / ssh and relatively lightweight is https://github.com/sinelaw/fresh everybody can just use it intuitively.

      hnlmorg 4 minutes ago

      I’ll take a look at this. But it’s worth noting that NetBSDs goal was to have something small enough that it can be used in a recovery shell.

  • Levitating 26 minutes ago

    NetBSD isn't the first to use the name. My pet text editor is also called atto: https://git.levitati.ng/Levitating/atto

  • itomato 29 minutes ago

    NetBSD has beginners?

      alnsn 3 minutes ago

      You can ask Claude to cross-complie, prepare an image (aka install) and run an emulator. I tried exactly this yesterday and in about an hour I could attach to tmux and run tests on emulated riscv64 board.

      graemep 23 minutes ago

      Beginners to NetBSD who are not vi users.

  • IshKebab 24 minutes ago

    > Perhaps all that needs to be known to use atto at a basic level is that holding the control key, pressing x, then pressing w will write the currently open file, and holding the control key, pressing x, then pressing c will exit the editor.

    Very beginner friendly lol. These people have no idea.

    Micro is a beginner-friendly console text editor. This isn't.

  • jmclnx 4 minutes ago

    >making it suitable for inclusion in the rescue system

    People seem to be missing the point. Also NetBSD has what I call a "read single user mode". Last time I had to boot single user, ed(1) was the only editor available without some work. My guess is this new editor will be useful for people who do not want to deal with ed(1).

    I have not seen it yet, but I guess it will be includes in 11.1.