23 comments

  • at1as 21 minutes ago

    I'm currently on a marathon to keep my M1 Pro running until the M7 Pro/Max is available. Not sure if I'll make it, but I'm not eager to pay $6000+ for a decent spec dev computer, until I really have to

      epistasis 2 minutes ago

      I'm loving my M1 Macbook Air still, and only a few weeks away from six years of use Sometimes it lags a bit when I'm running a macOS VM, and all the coding agent VMs, so I'm kind of interested in going to 32GB of RAM, but honestly this computer is still faster than any of my laptops that came before, even with the visual atrocity of Liquid Glass.

      I'll go and look at this new box, drool a little, and realize that I'd get more personal utility from donating $3k (or whatever the trade in delta is) to a charity than upgrading my computer.

      jwilcoxson 12 minutes ago

      My M1 Pro has been great, certainly doesn’t feel like a 5-year old computer.

        freakynit 6 minutes ago

        M1 Air guy here... I'm not looking for a replacement still. Almost 7 years now. Runs butter-smooth. Best tech purchase I ever made.

        TrainedMonkey 4 minutes ago

        Biggest issue with my M3 Max is apple mandatory fun bloatware. I think it's the same playbook as phones long term. The hardware is still powerful but the software is optimized for the latest CPU, so older models run hot, take a fraction of the second longer to load the resources, etc. That stacks up over 5-6 years of releases to make older models feel slower.

      ErneX 7 minutes ago

      If the rumours are true (about AI capabilities) it’d be best to wait yes.

  • BugsJustFindMe 41 minutes ago
  • villgax 31 minutes ago

    About time they put a battery in the lid, which is what an iPad already manages to do with thinness. Boom another half a decade of updates all the way to 48hrs

  • ritzaco 44 minutes ago

    > Phenomenal battery life: In addition to the huge leap in performance, battery life gets up to 14 additional hours for Intel-based upgraders

    the m2/m3 announcements were already kind of cringe to keep saying 'HEY IT'S BETTER THAN INTEL' but at this point it's just embarrassing?

      wtallis 27 minutes ago

      There's no happy medium here that would satisfy everybody: when they make marketing claims about improvements relative to products from several years ago, they get criticized for not focusing on the improvements relative to last gen (even if those comparisons are also somewhere in the announcement). When they focus on the most recent generations, people complain that it doesn't make sense to upgrade every year.

      Just accept that even if you aren't still using an Intel MacBook Pro, the comparison is still relevant to some part of their target market.

      They only just dropped support for Intel Macs from this fall's operating system release (but are still doing security patches for the releases that Intel Macs can run). A year from now, it actually will be fairly reasonable to expect them to give up marketing to the holdouts.

      Grombobulous 25 minutes ago

      Fun fact: the laptop in this size/performance class with the best battery life is a Windows Intel Core Ultra Series 3 laptop, not a MacBook Pro!

      So Apple is now comparing against computers they were selling 7-8 years ago rather than what Intel is delivering now.

      anamexis 34 minutes ago

      I would guess there's still quite a lot of people on Intel Macs out there (they were sold 5 years ago), so it is still very much worth it for Apple to market to them.

      ErneX 7 minutes ago

      They want those users to upgrade, I don’t see the problem.

      thibaut_barrere 28 minutes ago

      More people than you think (outside tech) are using Intel Macs at the moment (family computers etc).

        jwilcoxson 18 minutes ago

        Exactly. A late model Intel Mac is still a perfectly cromulent computer in 2026.

          Razengan 10 minutes ago

          "cromulent" sounds like such a disgusting word that isn't.

          probably because of its adjacency to "corpulent" lol

            anamexis 2 minutes ago

            The word "cromulent" was coined by the TV show The Simpsons in a gag.

            > Mrs. Krabappel: "Embiggens"? I never heard that word before I moved to Springfield.

            > Ms. Hoover: I don't know why. It's a perfectly cromulent word.

            But now it has made it into the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

      zaphar 33 minutes ago

      Why? Apple devices have the best battery life in the market right now to my knowledge. It's an important part of the evaluation for a laptop which is the opposite of cringe.

        Grombobulous 23 minutes ago

        Actually, they don’t! Intel Core Ultra Series 3 beats Apple laptops as of the M5 on battery life.

        IIRC the Framework 13 Pro beats the MacBook Pro at both video streaming tests and office productivity with 300 bits brightness tests. (Framework live-streamed the video playback test, and the office provided productivity tests I referred to were done by Just Josh Tech)

        Perhaps the M6 has leapfrogged but that remains to be seen.

          jwilcoxson 16 minutes ago

          Competition is a beautiful thing.

          porridgeraisin 15 minutes ago

          In usual developer type tasks, among my friend group what I hear is that panther lake laptops are competitive with M4 laptops. But, M4s do that with a 55Wh battery, whereas most panther lake laptops come with a 70Wh battery. So if you're discussing chip performance per watt then it's probably an edge to apple silicon.

            Grombobulous 8 minutes ago

            72.4 Wh is the size of the M4 MacBook Pro battery, about the same size as the Framework 13 Pro.

            Intel and now Qualcomm are really not far off on performance per watt. Mostly Apple maintains an advantage on single core performance.

            The Panther Lake integrated GPU in the X7/X9 SKI is actually faster than the one you get in the base M5.