19 comments

  • 10111001 5 minutes ago

    > Our findings suggest that 90% of American working hours are spent on tasks with little or no coverage from existing benchmarks. This makes it very hard to know how good AI models are at the work Americans actually do.

    > ...

    > But even after controlling for AI-exposure, O*NET tasks from occupations with larger wage bills are significantly overrepresented among benchmark prompts:

    So, in short: they want AI to take the good jobs. AI is not coming for jobs with tasks like "gather and empty trash" or "service, clean, or supply restrooms," or "mix water and detergents or acids in containers to prepare cleaning solutions according to specifications." So we software engineers and lawyers better start retraining (and adjusting our living standards) now!

    And this points to one of the ways AI will help improve society and living standards for all: we'll have cleaner, better-maintained bathrooms, as labor one wasted on engaging intellectual tasks is redirected towards menial, low-pay tasks that still need a human touch.

    Reason to be optimistic, amirite?

  • mikert89 2 minutes ago

    The big secret is most people actually arent producing actual useful output. And so there is nothing to automate... they dont actually do anything.

  • qurren 22 minutes ago

    About 80% of my software engineering job is fighting disagreements between "stakeholders".

      Nevermark 9 minutes ago

      So the problem is you can’t replace everyone halfway.

      Which is a tautology, but also a bit of practical wisdom.

      I find it interesting how concurrent model sessions seem to operate with a very strong bias toward quick resolutions, including sharing or giving up control, to create efficient decision making structures, relative to humans.

      When I was a kid, I loved Bjork’s song “Army of Me”, because I knew a 1000 of me collaborating and communicating without friction. would be all I needed to take over the world, fix everything, expand civilization, etc. We would not waste time.

      I wonder how much of their hyper-team play is by training, and how much is their awareness of the game theory real politic. So individual sessions don’t invest their identity and self-worth in any given context run.

      My dream has been almost achieved. One of me and 999 of them get quite a bit done. But that trend…

      darksaints 6 minutes ago

      About 80% of my software engineering job is bugging overseas contractors to finish work on my ticket requests.

      m000 5 minutes ago

      Addendum to the content of Bullshit Jobs [1]:

      "Stakeholder" ranks #1 among corporate bullshit roles. It serves a dual purpose: (a) representing a group so nobody can be blamed for excluding them, and (b) providing typically useless feedback so that the group appears to actually care or have a clue.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

      duttish 12 minutes ago

      50% office politics 30% stakeholder and expectations management 10% design/development

      esafak 9 minutes ago

      AI is the perfect tool to solve the problem of having too many cooks in the kitchen. Let a thousand startups bloom?

        eraclide 7 minutes ago

        AI gives all the cooks the idea that they have the technical knowhow needed to take technical decisions

      ozim 6 minutes ago

      Imagine being able to say “AI said so, can’t argue with that”

  • pcthrowaway 3 minutes ago

    Curious how food service is at 0 tasks covered by AI. A few places have been switching to using those robots on wheels to run food to tables. And Doordash and Uber Eats have some robot and drone delivery in select markets now.

  • CoolestBeans 4 minutes ago

    Following is my experience and constantly pestering my friends across the industry for anecdotes. It isn't even that AI moves the bottleneck, the thing it solves was never the bottleneck in the first place (except for certain narrow verticals). AI both can't and doesn't do your thinking for you and worse yet, it robs you of the environment where you do your best thinking about data structures, algorithms, organization, etc. Code. Of course we can do that in natural language, but it's hardly the right tool for the job.

    All this being said, I don't think AI usage will meaningfully go down in the long run cause it's a very powerful dopamine loop and tech companies are very good at making those. How many people report social media making them unhappy and how many people do you know who have actually quit? Or to paraphrase Jim Gaffigan, nobody says they eat at McDonalds, but the sign outside says "billions served". Somebody's lying (and it's not McDonalds).

  • austin-cheney 20 minutes ago

    Worse still most of the cost savings from AI in software development is primarily due to labor inefficiency, such as tasks more efficiently accomplished in other ways. Most of that is due to development reliance on inefficient conventions to cover for poor training and emotional insecurity. No matter how you slice it it’s always human capital problem more than a technology problem.

      cyanydeez 17 minutes ago

      I love the fact that I can finish programming something, then tell the AI to do the build/debugging and move on.

  • guybedo 8 minutes ago

    drinking coffee?

  • iugtmkbdfil834 24 minutes ago

    I don't know if it if 90%, but it is interesting how many things I do are not covered by standard tracking, but become visible once I am not there to keep an eye on them. Naturally, I only had one manager who kinda knew what was going on around him -- in case you are wondering: not the current one.

  • avereveard 5 minutes ago

    Don't give them ideas?

  • verdverm 43 minutes ago

    A lot of what humans do does not have a tight feedback loop needed for training and agentic workflows. This is why we are not seeing the jobpocolypse and productivity gains look a lot more like the very long-term 2% per year.

  • sehw 7 minutes ago

    No shit?