I remember first learning about Firebase when working on Android push notifications, a loooooong time ago (~2011 i think). Over time it grew into this full-featured app development platform, after an aquisition (don’t remember the name).
These days however it feels a bit neglected, and somehow poorly bolted on to GCP. I still have a few production apps running on it and news like this reinforces my belief that it’s in decline.
What are folks using these days that (ideally) is open source and self-hostable? I don’t want to lock in with another platform. Some of these apps use the offline sync feature of Firestore (apps used in basements and other low-connectivity areas).
I'm hearing an awful lot of "How could they do this to us?" and not a lot of "Wow, maybe we should have read some of this 3rd party code we bundled into 'ALLLL' of our apps"
Just an ignorant and naive outsider's take, but to me it paints a pretty damning picture of the state of mobile development.
I'm normally right there with you, but Firebase is mandatory for Google Play integration, eg. sending push notifications to users. There is no reasonable way to provide this functionality without it. Even GrapheneOS is still dependent on Google Play. This is as much an indictment of the duopoly's iron grip on the most widely used computing platform in the world as it is individual developers.
If only there was any way to avoid this, right..? (I don't mean from Google's side, that as well, but that's not the point)
I remember first learning about Firebase when working on Android push notifications, a loooooong time ago (~2011 i think). Over time it grew into this full-featured app development platform, after an aquisition (don’t remember the name).
These days however it feels a bit neglected, and somehow poorly bolted on to GCP. I still have a few production apps running on it and news like this reinforces my belief that it’s in decline.
What are folks using these days that (ideally) is open source and self-hostable? I don’t want to lock in with another platform. Some of these apps use the offline sync feature of Firestore (apps used in basements and other low-connectivity areas).
Ugh.
That's the dark side of these types of dependencies.
But they provide a great deal of utility, so I can understand the attraction.
I was wondering why random apps kept crashing today. Good to know.
But this is completely not acceptable from the Google
I'm hearing an awful lot of "How could they do this to us?" and not a lot of "Wow, maybe we should have read some of this 3rd party code we bundled into 'ALLLL' of our apps"
Just an ignorant and naive outsider's take, but to me it paints a pretty damning picture of the state of mobile development.
Mobile and frontend development, both, now-a-days contain way way way more dependencies than they should.
I'm normally right there with you, but Firebase is mandatory for Google Play integration, eg. sending push notifications to users. There is no reasonable way to provide this functionality without it. Even GrapheneOS is still dependent on Google Play. This is as much an indictment of the duopoly's iron grip on the most widely used computing platform in the world as it is individual developers.
Resolved - https://github.com/firebase/firebase-ios-sdk/issues/16728#is...
Resolved, but can still affect customers for up to 4 hours...
So many problems here, and no signs of an updated SDK that behaves properly on malformed input.
This is not the first time this has happened.