33 comments

  • gkoberger 21 minutes ago

    Unfortunately, this is for the best. WordPress powers a large percentage of the internet, and I'm not sure what's going on with Matt (who I've always liked) but something turned the past few years.

    He's been behind unforced error after unforced error as CEO, and I hope a break helps him gain some perspective (although I don't see him being brought back).

    WordPress has been his life for 23 years. Doing the same thing for 23 years likely makes it difficult to have a proper perspective.

      biglyburrito 17 minutes ago

      "Unfortunately"??

        gkoberger 14 minutes ago

        "Unfortunately", because Matt did a lot of good for the internet over the past two decades. WordCamp is (or was) really amazing, the community he built is really great, the Automattic lounge was cool, he's donated millions of dollars to good causes, and WordPress powers a large portion of the Internet.

          solarkraft 10 minutes ago

          Automattic also bought Tumblr and Pocket Casts, publishing the code of the latter. I used to have a subscription just to support them.

            dofm 4 minutes ago

            And Simplenote.

          Gualdrapo 10 minutes ago

          Huh. I still remember back in the Gutenberg launch era and all the drama around it (2018) the internet saying he was the devil for profiting from WP.

        gpm 4 minutes ago

        Yeah, it's unfortunate when anyone goes off the deep end.

        Arnt 10 minutes ago

        He read the commit logs and understood much of what he read. That's deep understanding of the product. That alone puts him in the top few percent of CEOs.

        IMO.

        solarkraft 12 minutes ago

        He still contributed a lot to the world during the good times.

  • Shank 28 minutes ago

    > “And the biggest news: I won't be able to make the ELT tomorrow,” Matt wrote in an Announcement Slack. He continued, writing that Mark Davies, current Automattic Chief Financial Officer, has “conspired” with Automattic Board of Directors members Ann Dunwoody, Toni Schneider, and Sue Decker “behind my back and they voted to put me on a paid leave of absence. I voted against that.”

    If you’re doing this type of accusation in the company wide announcements channel, odds are you’re never coming back. A board coup rarely happens without a good reason, but a “leave of absence” isn’t a firing. It’s still pretty bad, but it’s not a firing. However, crashing out and waging war on the board will lead to that outcome.

      SaltyBackendGuy 20 minutes ago

      In recent memory of companies I've worked for, even the absolute WORST executives haven't gotten fired. They always announce that "it's time for another adventure" or "I am taking a break". So I am not shocked they didn't fire him, although the board is now probably wishing they did.

        datakan 11 minutes ago

        Had a President make a big ordeal about leaving "for health reasons". His LinkedIn had him at a new company within a couple months doing the same thing.

        Had a CISO leave for "personal" reasons. Talked to him a couple years later and yeah, he was fired.

        Steal 20$ out of a cash register and make the local news. Waste a billion dollars at a corp and make insane decisions and ride out on a golden parachute. Its a fucked up world.

        tibbydudeza a few seconds ago

        Spend more time with my family :).

        patternMachine 9 minutes ago

        Barring truly bad behavior this is how executives get fired.

  • reticulates 6 minutes ago

    I think it is easy to underestimate how big of a deal this is. Matt has a stranglehold on Automattic and Wordpress, it is not possible to remove his control over the ecosystem and he is volatile. Ousting him as CEO is almost certain to cause a major reaction from Matt, so, for Automattic to make this decision is a very big deal. The right decision for the long term but the hard decision. I expect we will see Matt try to punish Automattic’s board, it will get worse for Automattic before it gets better.

    Here is Matt talking about his control: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42657150

      pluc 4 minutes ago

      I'd definitely take away his access having seen how vindictive he has been throughout the WPE saga, for everyone's sake

  • 0xDEADBEEFCAFE a minute ago

    Anyone could have forked WordPress at any time or spun up their own multi tenant instances if they were truly concerned, this just seems personal. It’s a bad day for founders IMO.

  • _fw 26 minutes ago

    I briefly worked in the web agency SaaS space and hoooo boy, I have never known a more gossipy or dramatic industry.

    That’s not to pass comment either way on Mullenweg

    It’s just WordPress folk are nuts.

  • garbagepatch 17 minutes ago
  • hermitcrab 24 minutes ago

    >Most recently, Automattic attempted to claim it owns the word “automatic.”

    What is wrong with these people?

      gkoberger 15 minutes ago

      I was curious what this meant, so I looked into it.

      They asked Automatic.css to change their name: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/1omrtrk/automatt...

      Automatic.css is a CSS framework specifically for WordPress.

      Legally speaking I have no opinion here, but I don't think it's as out-of-pocket as it sounds.

      wmf 19 minutes ago

      That's how you can tell the article isn't giving you the full picture.

  • solarkraft 16 minutes ago

    I’m a bit relieved. Only knowing it superficially through its larger public actions, Automattic used to be one of the “good guys” companies to me. I envisioned myself applying there at some point. This has obviously changed over the last 1-2 years.

    I don’t doubt that the good parts were largely Matt’s work, but well ... I think a lot of us followed his semi-recent public actions.

    I’m a bit surprised they didn’t pull the plug earlier given they could have. Hasn’t he already caused vast damage?

    Still, he has done a lot of good for the internet and world at large. I don’t want to discount that. I just hope he manages to chill a bit.

  • tibbydudeza 2 minutes ago

    Finally.

  • ValentineC 15 minutes ago

    I'm shocked. I always thought that Matt held the majority of the voting shares, and that the board of directors was mostly there as a rubber stamp.

  • ChoosesBarbecue 12 minutes ago

    I am so curious why now, what changed? The WPEngine saga is nearly two years old.

  • nubinetwork 23 minutes ago

    Good riddance

  • ramon156 25 minutes ago

    Reminds me of the first season of Succession

      turnsontv 16 minutes ago

      Same except I don't view the world through a TV so I have no clue what you're talking about.

      But that one episode amirite

      Such an episode

  • dcrazy 21 minutes ago

    I guess when people vote the same way, it’s technically a conspiracy?

  • bellowsgulch 23 minutes ago

    Good, get him the fuck away from Wordpress. Though frankly, a better solution might be for businesses to ask themselves whether or not they need Wordpress anymore.

    In the mean time, if you're unable to derisk Mullenweg out of your business stack, this is a good first step.