15 comments

  • whatever1 13 minutes ago

    Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

      meerita 2 minutes ago

      It wouldn’t even be a problem for Apple to support Linux. Linux’s desktop market share has never been a threat to Apple at all. I hope Torvalds, being the engineer he is, opens this up.

      alt227 10 minutes ago

      So that you have to keep buying Macs every few years of course. If they gave you a way to install linux easily then you could use it far past their intended lifespan and wouldnt keep you locked into the apple ecosystem. They have proved time and time again that Apple hardware running anything but MacOS or iOS is something they will work very hard to stop you doing.

      sansah 9 minutes ago

      They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

        novafunc 7 minutes ago

        Apple made some changes specifically for Asahi Linux to make it more robust.

        I believe it was Hector Martin who discussed it on Mastodon a while ago.

      IshKebab 3 minutes ago

      I expect they don't actually care whether or not people run Linux on macs. I mean they used to let you run Windows!

      Probably the real reason is just that it's extra work - both in terms of producing the docs, and in dealing with complaints when they change things. From their point of view it's extra work with no benefit to them.

        ajross a few seconds ago

        > they used to let you run Windows!

        They let you run Windows when they were losing in the market and needed a path to migration for users of the winning platform. Once they started winning, they stopped.

        Conversely, Microsoft refused to interoperate with Linux. Until Linux became the clear winner in the datacenter space. Now they have WSL and actually work pretty well as a cross-platform development environment.

      ajross 2 minutes ago

      > Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community?

      Because then they'll have to compete with Linux, which opens them up to someone else making a cheaper computer that does the same stuff.

      I mean, I'm typing this on a junky Raptor Lake laptop I found on eBay for $220. Would I buy a Neo or MBP to replace it just to run the same software stack? Probably not.

      If you believe OS X is the best environment and Apple Silicon will remain the best hardware in perpetuity, it seems silly for Apple not to allow some experimentation. Apple executives, to be blunt, know better. Lean times are always ahead.

  • sansah 12 minutes ago

    Lack of sleep and HDMI support is real roadblock for adoption. Hope they gets past soon.

  • Krish1577 an hour ago

    Reverse-engineering Apple's custom silicon is basically the modern equivalent of repairing a spaceship while it's actively launching. Incredible work by the Asahi team!

  • benoau 24 minutes ago

    Some big caveats but still amazing progress!

  • tunder 15 minutes ago

    Still no thunderbolt support.

      alt227 11 minutes ago

      To be fair this is the thing that is likely to be the most difficult due to it being closed proprietary apple/intel tech.

      MYEUHD 13 minutes ago

      You can contribute support for it

        BowBun a minute ago

        Indeed, not sure why you are being downvoted. Contribute to open source with the energy you have to call out missing features.