Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a potential these days, which makes it a perfect cover for different anyones. Demonstrating vulnerability in the US's AI boom can move the markets. That's a financial incentive and a strong geopolitical one.
More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"
I find it hard to believe that enough people would flock to from Claude and Chat to Grok to cause an outage. I feel like Gemini is the dominant release valve in this case especially for enterprise.
Just a reminder that AI models' actions are reflections of the text humans write and the more we fret and make up doomsday scenarios that we then post online, the more likely a model is to do those things.
I assume it cascaded from one provider to the other as people who lost claude access for instance moved to openai who moved to grok when it went down, etc.
Didn't SpaceX overbuilt infra and leases it out Anthropic? I f their dc goes down it probably takes a chunk out of Claude's capacity before even considering the flood of users switching over
everything in this thread is raw speculation, obv, but if i had to put money on anything i'd say this is a left-pad incident. some piece of something or other that all of these services happen to depend on went down. Second most likely seems to be some random failure of one leading to an unexpected traffic spike in others, though it seems like we've been talking about automated scalability in web apps for so long that there should at least be a response to, if not a solution for, this sort of problem.
Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a potential these days, which makes it a perfect cover for different anyones. Demonstrating vulnerability in the US's AI boom can move the markets. That's a financial incentive and a strong geopolitical one.
More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"
My gut feeling tells me it has something to do with Cloudflare. Along with AWS, they're two of the main suspects in such incidents.
Think of it like one big distributed system. OpenAI is down, so people migrate to Claude, now this one gets overloaded and goes down, etc.
So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess.
It'd be funny if this is true because that'd prolly mean nobody is touching Gemini even as a fallback.
I find it hard to believe that enough people would flock to from Claude and Chat to Grok to cause an outage. I feel like Gemini is the dominant release valve in this case especially for enterprise.
Especially considering memory/gpu/compute are scarce so these services are likely running with very little buffer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_effect
Edit: Updated per valleyer's suggestion.
Obvious answer is it's the AI singularity. Been nice run for humanity. So long everyone.
Seeing 503s on Gemini via API as well
What about a hard-takeoff scenario of an unleashed OpenAI Astra taking other models down for computational resources control?
at this point: gg
Just a reminder that AI models' actions are reflections of the text humans write and the more we fret and make up doomsday scenarios that we then post online, the more likely a model is to do those things.
https://alignment.anthropic.com/2026/teaching-claude-why/
I kinda assume it's because one went down and a large amount of work shifted to another.
I'm also aware that they have overlap in some areas on data centers.
Heard on the grape vine that the OpenAI blip was a cloudflare issue
I suspect Azure is having issues, Microsoft has had outages the paat two days, especially with email.
Pretty sure it's a US thing since it's available here in France. What exactly is down, idk
claide.ai is working for me, so is chatgpt.com. grok still has a status message about issues, i can't try it without signing up.
according to https://downdetector.com/ Gemini is down too (and copilot, but that just uses ChatGPT right?)
They all rent compute from SpaceXAI
I don't believe OpenAI does
Surely it's a bit more distributed than that, right?
Some npm library that makes headers bold would be broken.
Oh man. Some low effort supply chain attack that turns every GPU into a cryptominer. It's funny because it's plausible.
Ah yes ye olde bold-headers: ^3.13.31;
I assume it cascaded from one provider to the other as people who lost claude access for instance moved to openai who moved to grok when it went down, etc.
Maybe the stack behind it is down, like AWS or something
Didn't SpaceX overbuilt infra and leases it out Anthropic? I f their dc goes down it probably takes a chunk out of Claude's capacity before even considering the flood of users switching over
They're all using Cloudflare.
chatgpt is back
they all rent compute from each other
The Thundering Herd has thundered, apparently.
ChatGPT is up
Probably same public cloud or CDN in front of them.
Too early to know, let’s wait and see
The IRGC has cut the fiber-optic cables in the Strait of Hormuz. LOL
SkyNet is arming..
everything in this thread is raw speculation, obv, but if i had to put money on anything i'd say this is a left-pad incident. some piece of something or other that all of these services happen to depend on went down. Second most likely seems to be some random failure of one leading to an unexpected traffic spike in others, though it seems like we've been talking about automated scalability in web apps for so long that there should at least be a response to, if not a solution for, this sort of problem.