26 comments

  • 1123581321 35 minutes ago

    This is a non-story; for those who haven’t read them, prospectuses include every potential risk under the sun. There will be risks that never make the news alongside the exciting backlash.

      dofm 23 minutes ago

      “Everyone hates us and the very fundamentals of what we are promising, will fight to prevent us establishing infrastructure, may pass laws to limit our activities in their states, and will extend that hatred to our major investors, potentially materially damaging their businesses” is not a common thing in an IPO prospectus, I imagine, for quite obvious reasons.

      But that is the gist of the situation is it not? If it’s an honest statement, it is going to say something like this.

      Which prospectus got close to anything like this? People hate SpaceX products less.

        jryle70 10 minutes ago

        "Everyone hates us but they can't have enough of us. Our revenue can't stop rising"

        Anthropic's credit line is now $10B - [0], and the IPO is expected to beat or match SpaceX - [1]

        [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/anthropic-p...

        [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-20/anthropic...

        bragr 8 minutes ago

        I'm sure you can find similar stuff in the prospectuses of many controversial companies spanning oil, cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, adult entertainment, guns, gambling, defense, etc... Anything someone is trying hard to ban.

          newsomix9xl 7 minutes ago

          Why is AI in the category of oil, cigs, and beer? Its software ....

            bragr a minute ago

            Social media and gaming companies probably have it too

        jmalicki 14 minutes ago

        Uber and Airbnb both had similar risks in their S1s, for obvious reasons.

          dofm 8 minutes ago

          I was thinking maybe Uber but I was not sure it could have been that bad. They would have had states pushing back but against a very popular product with users.

          But Airbnb, good point: they would have talked about the risks of states curtailing their businesses.

          It’s still a very unusual level of hatred, I would say.

            cavem0nkey 3 minutes ago

            I think there’s a genuinely huge divisive opinion on AI companies. We don’t see this due to our particular industry echo chambers but really the majority of society has bigger problems and this offers them no solutions and threatens to take their lifelines away.

            Divisive technology leads to hate. Flock as well which is an us and them. Same mindset.

            We are not as popular as we think we are. I know which side of the fence I want to be on.

            jmalicki 5 minutes ago

            Uber called out that they were aggressively doing an end run around both taxi licensing AND minimum wage laws and facing significant pushback on both fronts, among many other risks.

          cavem0nkey 12 minutes ago

          And both have been damaging to society. And are getting fined and chased out of certain countries.

          Why would you throw investment in this unless you’re just leveraging the growth in the time it takes for regulatory issues to appear? Which is terribly unethical.

          Wall to wall bastards. I’d rather die poor than contribute to the further decline of society.

            dofm 7 minutes ago

            They have but this reply was a fully fair answer to my point; perhaps there are more.

        montagg 19 minutes ago

        The non-story part is that they would include this risk even if it were 5 people.

          sumeno 16 minutes ago

          I could easily find 5 people who hate SpaceX and yet that wasn’t mentioned as a risk

          I think you’re going to have to provide evidence that this is a commonly documented risk

            jmalicki 10 minutes ago

            "Our AI products and X platform are subject to complex and evolving U.S. and foreign laws and regulations regarding privacy, cybersecurity, data use, data combination, data protection, content, AI, competition, youth protection, safety, consumer protection and notification, advertising, e-commerce, sanctions, export controls, and other matters. Many of these laws and regulations are subject to change and uncertain interpretation, and we could be required to make changes to our products and business practices, and be exposed to monetary penalties, increased cost of operations, declines in user growth or engagement, or loss of customers, or other harm to our AI products and X platform. "

            "Certain of our AI products, including Grok, offer features or modes designed to generate more candid, direct, or less reserved or irreverent outputs, such as “Spicy” Imagine Mode and “Unhinged” Voice Mode. These features are intended to provide users with greater flexibility and control in how they use our tools. Because these modes may be more irreverent and harsher than our standard offerings, they present heightened risks, including reputational harm, the generation of potentially explicit content and misinformation or deceptive outputs, potential nonconsensual or exploitative imagery, intellectual property infringement, or content that could be viewed as exploitative, harmful, harassing, abusive, or discriminatory. The availability of such features may also increase the risk of regulatory scrutiny, enforcement actions, litigation, or claims of harm, as well as reputational damage, user or advertiser backlash, or limitations on our ability to distribute or monetize our products in certain jurisdictions or through certain partners."

            Or the wonderful:

            "We, Mr. Musk, and other companies Mr. Musk is affiliated with frequently receive an immense amount of media attention. The actions and statements of Mr. Musk and his affiliated ventures, whether or not directly relating to us, may draw significant public attention and scrutiny to us and could potentially have a positive or negative impact on our business, relationships with customers and regulators, or stock price."

  • jqpabc123 32 minutes ago

    negative sentiment towards AI and data centers will be listed as a risk factor

    The fact that the technology can "hallucinate" and is unreliable is not just a "sentiment" --- it is a well established fact. And it is more than a risk, it is virtually guaranteed to happen if you use it repeatedly.

    Calling it "sentiment" is like an "alternative fact".

      cm2187 17 minutes ago

      Not sure what you are talking about. The negative sentiment isn't about hallucinations, it is about job replacement and high electricity cost.

        watwut 13 minutes ago

        And water. And oligarchs relations to Trump administration. And it way AI was forced everywhere. And how they get massive investments while rest of economu suffers. And doomtrolling. And how unappealing their culty vision of the world is. And plan to create monopoly. And how they claim to be creating doom machine.

        Like ... basically everyone can pick their reason to hate.

          azan_ 10 minutes ago

          Isn’t data center water usage actually non-story?

      simianwords 22 minutes ago

      its a bit sad that the public can't grasp tools that have high variance but still end up being useful. lots of things in real life follow the same pattern yet when it comes to AI..

      uejfiweun 30 minutes ago

      ...what? I don't think they're talking about hallucinations here, they're talking about public opinion.

        paul7986 6 minutes ago

        Tell that to graphic designers as do you think that's a career a student going into college should pursue? Same with web design and web development.. like would you tell a freshman in college to pursue those degrees vs. medical stuff and or skip college altogether, rather pick up tools to help build those data centers?

        jqpabc123 26 minutes ago

        Is it just an "opinion" if it is based on proven facts?

          LPisGood 24 minutes ago

          Yes. Let’s say I saw a person kill someone. That’s a fact, but my perception of them would be low; that is an opinion.

          I think it’s really swell how the last 10 years have made it so the basic difference between fact and opinion is not totally obvious.

            jqpabc123 16 minutes ago

            We're talking stated "risk" to the public.

            Using your example --- as far as "risk" to the public is concerned, which would be more pertinent info --- the fact that this person is a murderer or your low opinion?

          bluefirebrand 24 minutes ago

          "Public Opinion" -

          Public opinion, or popular opinion, is the collective opinion on a specific topic or voting intention relevant to society. It is the people's views on matters affecting them (From Wikipedia)

          It has nothing to do with fact. It broadly represents peoples views, factual or otherwise.