19 comments

  • mikert89 10 minutes ago

    Would love to see this calculated in high cost of living areas (NY, CA), pretty sure some people have seen 20% wage declines since covid (in terms of how far your income goes)

  • culi 17 minutes ago

    The other interesting finding here is that only 57% of these "job stayers" beat or matched inflation, while 43% suffered a real wage cut. A huge chunk of the people who's wages beat inflation only did so due to job hopping

  • missedthecue an hour ago

    So 63% didn't. I wonder what the average netted out to. Increase or decrease and how much?

      tqi 23 minutes ago

      Its interesting, I thought it was pretty well established that COVID era stimulus helped lower earners make real gains, even adjusted for inflation, while higher earners who did not get stimulus checks lost ground?

      From page 36 of the paper: All deciles during this earlier period experienced annual real wage growth, with the growth being the largest for the bottom two deciles of the wage distribution.

        LPisGood 19 minutes ago

        I’m pretty confused where you’re coming from. Stimulus checks were a one or two time payment of a couple thousand dollars, but stocks and corporate profits went absolutely parabolic.

        The share of wealth owned by the richest people went up far more than the bottom 90 (or even 99) percent. The data absolutely supports this perspective as well: https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...

          dan-robertson 12 minutes ago

          The stimulus was not just the checks, it was also pretty generous unemployment, and the discussion was about incomes of workers, not wealth.

            reilly3000 3 minutes ago

            Don’t forget about the PPP loans.

      lr4444lr 24 minutes ago

      I don't think the "average" is a good metric for the social impact of this. Everyone (or almost everyone) being at a standstill would be the minimum that governments should worry about. When even a sizable minority loses ground, that could create unrest.

      Flameancer 18 minutes ago

      Mine increased 2.75x. If you count bonuses and other benefits it definitely increased more than 3x.

      jplusequalt an hour ago

      The median worker saw a small wage growth, on the scale of ~.5% a year.

      However, it does says that 58% of all workers failed to keep up with the real wage growth trend we saw in the years leading up to the pandemic.

      >So 63% didn't.

      But more than a third of Americans did. You can't "glass two-thirds full" tens of millions of people seeing their actual purchasing power decrease.

        Dylan16807 3 minutes ago

        You can't glass one third empty it either. It's complicated and needs more numbers.

  • luckydata 7 minutes ago

    Me for example.

  • unnamed76ri an hour ago

    That was bound to happen with the 8-9% inflation we had during the Biden years. 2026 will likely see a similar decline thanks to Trump’s war in Iran.

      cma 27 minutes ago

      How much of inflation during Biden years was from Trump? For instance, Trump agreements to restrict oil production after covid lasted deep into Biden's term. The US still did better on inflation than most comparable peers in the aftermath of covid.

        culi 14 minutes ago

        The inflation was obviously mostly due to Covid and the invasion of Ukraine. Gas prices reached their highest points in 2022.

        https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts

        smallmancontrov 21 minutes ago

        We let Trump print $4T in an election year and Biden print $2T in four years. Trump was going 40mph in the parking lot, Biden slowed down to 5mph, and while there is a legitimate discussion to be had about whether or not the latter was too fast when someone is spazzing out about the 5mph and ignoring the 40mph, it's because they have an agenda.

        Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL

        jm4 20 minutes ago

        A big part of it was like $5T in covid stimulus, most of which happened under Trump. Biden piled some more on, probably unnecessarily. It felt like we were balancing on a razor's edge and maybe starting to come out of it by the end of 2024. A lot of inflationary policies since then.

          jacobolus 9 minutes ago

          The biggest problems were various supply shocks associated with the pandemic and its aftermath and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

          The Biden admin brought down inflation much faster than even optimistic economists predicted, while maintaining full employment and avoiding a recession. The US economy during that period significantly outperformed most other wealthy countries. (As one indicative example, the cover story of The Economist from October 2024 was titled The American economy: The envy of the world.)

  • SoftTalker 29 minutes ago

    During/immediately after a global pandemic? No!