22 comments

  • acdha 25 minutes ago

    In addition to being cheaper, you never hear about a massive sun or wind spill and the prices never change due to events thousands of miles away.

      ben_w 17 minutes ago

      Onion headlines aside*, we kinda do? This summer's European heatwave is due to emissions worldwide**; while the historical record has the early emissions from Europe, all the other inhabited continents have also contributed to it since then.

      * https://theonion.com/solar-power-investment-skyrockets-upon-...

      ** There's also a big El Niño event, the Wikipedia page on the heatwave currently expressly denies that this contributed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_European_heatwaves

        dyzone 12 minutes ago

        > Onion headlines aside

        Well technically speaking crude oil is a form of solar energy. (Sun -> plants -> animals -> crude oil)

          x______________ 6 minutes ago

          Isn't solar derived from nuclear fusion?

          Nukes for the win!

          MikeNotThePope 9 minutes ago

          What energy sources do we have that don't ultimately derive from either solar of radioactive decay? Residual heat from object formation perhaps.

            ben_w 3 minutes ago

            > solar of radioactive decay

            We can do fusion, but given the only large sources of that are fusion bombs and nobody wants a bomb-based power plant… :P

            _joel 8 minutes ago

            Gravity, just ask Jupiters' Moons.

      binyu 9 minutes ago

      Yep, that's one of the reasons it is called "green" energy. On top of renewability, the environmental impact of production is radically different from fossil fuels.

      andsoitis 13 minutes ago

      Oil is used for a lot more than power generation.

        Symbiote 11 minutes ago

        28% is used for petrochemicals and "other".

        The rest is for energy, mostly for transport.

      mhh__ 12 minutes ago

      The prices do change because (many, at least) renewable projects are subsidised via CFD schemes and so on and atop of that are selling into a spot market that may (it varies) pay them more than what they offer into the market.

      It's wonderful technology, the sun is god and so on, but we can't run everything on bursty renewables.

      gertrunde 4 minutes ago

      Wind spill?

      Like... A hurricane?

      Sun spill?

      Like... A coronal mass ejection?

        sd9 a minute ago

        But hurricanes are going to happen regardless of whether you have a turbine

      ekianjo 21 minutes ago

      good luck building solar without having any petrol or plastics derived from petrol in the supply chain

        hdgvhicv 4 minutes ago

        About 5kG of polymers per kw. That’s about a gallon of oil if it all came from oil. Where I live a 1kW solar panel offsets 100 litres of oil in a car every year. Oil from a single full tank of petrol could produce enough energy to drive a car about 1 million miles over its lifetime.

        savolai 17 minutes ago

        Also see: black and white or false dilemma fallacy

        ben_w 8 minutes ago

        Oh no, turns out that even if we stop burning oil we still need 6% of it for plastics, clearly this means there's no environmental benefit to reducing how much we ship by 94%, and we can't possibly for example move the plastic production to where the oil comes from so what we ship isn't crude and oh look people are already genetically modifying bacteria to produce oils suitable for various of the huge range of things in the category "plastic", which is such a broad range of things that saying anything about the whole lot in one go is a bit like saying "eat more fruit" when you mean "you are short of vitamin C specifically", oh wait hang on a minute…

        ThrowawayTestr 17 minutes ago

        It's a good thing we burn all these precious hydrocarbons, less microplastics in the environment.

      epolanski 23 minutes ago

      Electricity cost is pegged to energy cost and wars happening on the other end of the planet influence it directly.

      That includes renewables.

  • CrzyLngPwd an hour ago

    Just one of the many unintended consequences of the USA and Israel attacking Iran.

      hdgvhicv 2 minutes ago

      Unintended perhaps but not unpredictable. Distracting from the fact the US elected a paedo, twice, it worth it.

  • throw1234567891 an hour ago

    Business is business.