14 comments

  • tbrownaw 8 minutes ago

    27000 + 20% is 32400 not 47000, so not sure what's up with that sentence.

    Also, define "success". Even if it's just about being exceptional in economic terms, AIUI a bog-standard swdev salary is enough to be in the top 10% with no favoritism needed. And if it's about being able to retire and have grandkids come visit sometimes, I think that might be more common than not.

  • pavel_lishin 19 minutes ago

    This is probably the biggest value from going to college, or at least it was - making those connections. I got my first job from a college connection, and my second one as well. I'm not sure how useful the actual classes were, or the degree - my first job certainly didn't require one, and the second one would have likely waived the requirement for one since I was already employed as a software engineer.

  • Supermancho 19 minutes ago

    I think it's how you appear to other people you work around.

    Over a period of time, when the right person thinks you are useful/attractive/interesting, you get more opportunity/promotion.

    This happens to explain the networking effect implied by the post (and related analyses).

  • glaslong 28 minutes ago

    The key to success is the same as it ever was: you buying my Product! Or even better, my Course about how you too can achieve success with your own Product.

  • anticorporate 16 minutes ago

    Meeting people and making friends outside my income class through civic volunteering probably had a bigger impact on my lifetime earnings to date than either of my degrees or my work history itself.

      kian 4 minutes ago

      what kind of civic volunteering did you find most rewarding?

  • gopalv 15 minutes ago

    Your success eV is opportunities x success-rate.

    Out of the gate, hard work improves success rates, but not the count of opportunities.

    Connections improve opportunities, it doesn't do shit for success-rate.

    Luck does for both sides of the mix.

    As a startup founder in my 40s, the entire VP/SVP level in silicon valley is people one or two hops away for an intro, though admittedly a lot of the first hop there is through the other founders.

    The original paper about importance of weak ties is under appreciated, because people you work with tend to go on to better & bigger things - especially in the beginning of your career, if you are a nice person.

    Veritasium put out a very nice video[1] about knowing which sort of game we're playing. It is a power law game.

    There are only two takeaways I had, "show up" and "get lucky". There is no winning without showing up.

    [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBluLfX2F_k

  • senorcrab 9 minutes ago

    Ultimately this kind of mechanism is what creates a society of hereditary classes.

    This is not something to be celebrated - the one good thing about capitalism and open competition generally is that you can challenge this.

  • SalaevAl 4 minutes ago

    Same intuition here — until my own path disagreed. Roles via acquaintances were mostly meh; the best ones found me without networking.

  • ItsYan 29 minutes ago

    I wonder if this is true in continental Europe.

  • sublinear 24 minutes ago

    > 20% Higher adult income for children with economically diverse friends, the gap between a family earning 27,000 and one earning 47,000 a year

    So we're comparing poor people to even poorer people?

    I have never had an "economically diverse" group of friends. I grew up even more broke than the groups being compared. My friends were mostly lowlifes back then. I still don't know anybody filthy rich right now. I work from home in the suburbs making 6 figures and so do all my new friends.

    I'm not saying there isn't some nepotism in high places, but if we're just talking about the middle class... I mean what do you want me to say other than "stay in school"?

  • storus 27 minutes ago

    Pointing out that cronyism/nepotism is giving the largest boost for one's success instead of "meritocracy" is pretty depressing...

  • moralestapia 33 minutes ago

    Agree, but this "study" is trash. But indeed is its "who you know" and "who knows you", the way to the top i always through nepo. Al-ways.

    There's maybe like one exception to this rule every century.

  • pessimizer 20 minutes ago

    Always been true. Physical proximity to wealthy people is the key to success. The reason to send your kid to a good college (or to a terrible "small private liberal arts college on the East Coast") is to get them to be near wealthy people. Sleep with them and compliment them. If you're black, or can pretend to be convincingly, give them a tacit "N-word pass." They probably won't use it, but it will give them a glow like they just voted for Obama again.

    Tell them about the things you're working on and your business ideas, and praise every observation they make. Praise those observations so extensively that you abandon talking about your project entirely, and just talk about the implications of their astute observation. At the end, express gratitude for the universe giving you the opportunity to meet someone so much on the same page as you as they are. Ask them "why can't other people see it?" Try to develop a private joke from the conversations. Tell them about the difficulties your mother is going through.

    Repeat until wealthy.

    My favorite recent example is Carlos Watson. Got pulled up the greasy pole by Steve Jobs' wife, and after he slipped and fell into prison, got out through Trump circle ass-kissing. Even though I suspect owner of The Atlantic paid that bill, too, no matter the keyfabe.