Banksy works cost public almost £150k

18 points | by alvis an hour ago

30 comments

  • ryandrake 37 minutes ago

    The article's photo of the art barricaded from public view with two security people standing guard in front of it speaks even louder than the original artwork.

    And then, further down in the article, the picture of a whole structure built to block the view of the piece, with a locked door. Satire writing itself!

  • doikor 27 minutes ago

    It’s street art/graffiti. If someone wants to tag over it let them. Protecting this stuff with tax payer money is just stupid.

      tptacek 17 minutes ago

      I think that's where I'm at too (as a lifelong fan of actual street art), but that leaves the question of why Banksy is privileged the way he is, for his trite brand of sub-tour-poster stencil work, most of which would be too on-the-nose for a Rage Against The Machine reissue cover.

  • IshKebab 2 minutes ago

    Well, prosecute him for vandalism then to recoup the costs?

  • al_borland an hour ago

    They could do nothing and just let the art exist for free.

      Georgelemental a minute ago

      Not free, at the cost of the beauty of the vandalized area

      benj111 an hour ago

      Half this cost is related to security to actively stop people looking at the art work. If it's not acceptable for banksy to cost tax payers £50k to remove the graffiti, why is acceptable for the powers that be to waste another £50k on security to stop anyone seeing it?

      And if that ruins the character of the building, why is the fence acceptable?

        nprateem an hour ago

        Probably to stop people rocking up and cutting them out of the buildings

          Lalabadie 4 minutes ago

          That's true, though it's worth noting that Banksy's pest control – the people who certify that an artwork is legitimate – will always identify anything not meant to be sold as a fake, so resale is a lot more limited than anything meant for galleries and auctions.

      tptacek 42 minutes ago

      They can't. It's a listed building. They're legally obligated to remove it.

        Schiendelman 13 minutes ago

        Absolutely not. There is no enforcement mechanism to punish them if they chose not to enforce the listed building rules.

          tptacek 5 minutes ago

          In the sense that they are the enforcement mechanism of the law it's true that they can probably just ignore the law to a point, but it's no use pretending that there isn't a legal stricture here.

          (I'm a policy opponent of historic preservation, which is a major impediment to housing reform, but even I don't pretend that it simply doesn't exist.)

        mrkeen 8 minutes ago

        Let them apply austerity measures then.

  • xbar 21 minutes ago

    The Banksy cost-benefit and clean-protect loops are part of my favorite modern civic dialogs. I like it when the BBC takes the obvious side of the establishment because it is honest.

  • ForOldHack 4 minutes ago

    It costs only 150k? Pay the man. Its public art. Its art, and a damn sight better than the advertisements, wait... are you comparing art to ads? Get the ads to pay for the art? This article is merely government propiganda. Oh Charles... wake up! Knight Banksy noe..

  • nzoschke 30 minutes ago

    Technically this is vandalism of a govt building.

    If they're so concerned about cost, why not do what you'd do with any other vandal with a spray paint can...

    Immediately paint over it with grey paint to neutralize the "blight", then efficiently do a deeper clean / removal / repair the facade.

    Seems like they gave the Banksy very special treatment of fence, guards, etc. and now are paying for the side effects of that.

  • m0llusk an hour ago

    And the value of nothing.

  • omosubi 43 minutes ago

    why don't they just sell the works to recoup the costs?

    how much does graffiti cost the public in general?

      tptacek 42 minutes ago

      They can't; they're obligated by law to preserve the original structure the graffiti is painted on.

  • xnx 28 minutes ago

    Now do how much tourist money his works have brought in.

  • toomuchtodo an hour ago

    A rounding error to support the arts.

  • _8L34K 23 minutes ago

    "Think of the money!" This mentality needs to go extinct. Along with billionaires.

  • allears an hour ago

    And well worth it. Too bad they defaced it.

  • jccalhoun an hour ago

    Shadow Justice Secretary Nick Timothy said: ""Our courts are a national symbol of justice and the rule of law."

    It seems like someone doesn't get the symbolism of the Banksy piece.

      tptacek 42 minutes ago

      Uh, no, the piece isn't subtle. They simply disagree with it.

  • FatalLogic an hour ago

    Original art by Banksy is reportedly valued at millions of £ or $ [0]

    The BBC says "Banksy works cost public almost £150k" because "The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) says it has spent £50,000 trying to remove paint from the wall of the Grade II-listed building in Carey Street."

    Therefore, the title is incorrect. The cost to the public is much more than £150k. The Ministry's damage to this freely-contributed artwork has probably already cost the public a few million £, not just £150k

    [0] https://www.dawsonsauctions.co.uk/news-item/how-much-is-an-o...

      d4ng 43 minutes ago

      Have you considered that the public may be gaining something from the conversations and awareness that arise from the performance of this art? I invite you to move away from evaluating a piece of art simply in terms of the monetary cost to the tax payer.

        mrkeen 4 minutes ago

        Of course the poster has considered it, and disagrees with the message!

      kmoser 30 minutes ago

      The government has appropriated Banksy's artworks (e.g. the police sentry box), and could sell them. If the sale of those artworks exceeds the cost of cleaning others, then the government has netted a profit, which takes the monetary argument off the table.

      DroneBetter an hour ago

      you mean... as opposed to removing the bricks with the art on them to auction off and replacing them with new bricks?