12 comments

  • steveBK123 23 minutes ago

    I don’t even think most of it is deeply philosophical.

    They just got uberrich and now worry more about the concerns of the uberrich than the concerns they had when they were normies.

    Rule of law, functioning government providing services, functioning public commons, free press, freedom of speech for all, any social safety net, etc don’t matter when they are so far removed from the public they can just go buy yourself an island/citizenship/president.

    Suddenly small differences in marginal tax brackets, antitrust enforcement & limits on the ability to simply buy the government they want are the biggest encroachments on freedom they feel.

      Avicebron 6 minutes ago

      I think part of the problem this go around is that the information landscape has changed so much in ~30 years, that we are still trying to grapple with how to navigate this new terrain. If information and technology is causing everything to accelerate, we need new democratic structures to properly counter the perverse incentives of capital to compound it's power endlessly.

      jurgenburgen 7 minutes ago

      > Rule of law, functioning government providing services

      Jokes on them, without rule of law and functioning government to enforce it there is no ownership.

  • ang_cire 3 minutes ago

    Being and especially growing up rich tends to shield you from seeing the consequences of bad decisions, and I think that results in a lot of these rich tech bros being unable to properly analyze not just risk, but any negative externalities.

    Every child starts out thinking, "if I was in charge, I could fix this. It's so simple!"

    Then you actually see that when you make bad choices, you or others get hurt, and you realize that you don't always know what's best.

    But these guys never get hurt, because they have the money to be shielded from it, so they end up being these delusional wrecking ball assholes, who think they know better than everyone else and don't need anyone else's consent (I.e. votes) to make whatever overly simplistic or authoritarian changes their underdeveloped brains concoct.

  • etdznots 23 minutes ago

    It doesn’t misread anything, it doesn’t read at all.

  • croes 20 minutes ago

    With Musks ideas I often think I saw that movie/read that book. For his Mars plans I see the Mars colony from Total Recall, the Schwarzenegger film

    Like Zuckerberg‘s shift to VR that looks like he came out of the theater of Ready Player one.

      rightbyte 16 minutes ago

      They take warnings in popular culture as instructions or inspiration.

        fallinghawks 2 minutes ago

        Heck, we're living Idiocracy right now.

      add-sub-mul-div 6 minutes ago

      Haha it would make sense they're not even sci-fi ball-knowers.

      DustinBrett 11 minutes ago

      Mars was actually discovered before Total Recall was released.

        Jtsummers 3 minutes ago

        > Mars was actually discovered before Total Recall was released.

        No one suggested otherwise.

  • RevEng 14 minutes ago

    They know exactly what they are doing. Elon Musk talks a lot about freedom but he has never practiced it with regards to others, only himself. He has always considered the technologically well educated to be superior. He is also an egotistical narcissist. You can't believe anything he says he believes because he projects what he wants others to believe of him, not what he truly believes. The same is true of many of the techno bros whose actual technical abilities are heavily accentuated by their salesmanship. They lie and manipulate and call it human progress while actually being focused on their net worth. It's exactly what these sci-fi stories warned us about, but they used it as a playbook, not a warning, because they envisioned themselves as the tyrannical leader, not as the repressed masses beneath them.