Tell HN: I hate your fuzzy search

47 points | by tehwebguy an hour ago

21 comments

  • mmargenot 43 minutes ago

    Gmail's search on mobile, where things come up in the quick results only to disappear when I complete the search, is a millstone about my neck.

      mrngm 29 minutes ago

      Asana has the same problem. Really frustrating.

      bentt 17 minutes ago

      Killing and restarting the app unbreaks this. Maybe someone from the team could, you know, fix that?

  • leros 33 minutes ago

    HackerNews search respects double quotes around your terms as an exact match, as do many other search engines.

    For example search for "Amerca" with and without quotes. Without quotes you get content for "America" but with quotes you only get the exact typo match.

  • KolmogorovComp a few seconds ago

    Teams, Zulip, WhatsApp, they all suck so much... Discord is decent in my experience.

  • ChrisMarshallNY 17 minutes ago

    I understand the comment, and the spirit, but speaking only for myself, I find the HN search to be quite useful.

    I'm thinking that double-quotes does, indeed, force an exact search.

    But fuzzy searches can be extremely useful. Most folks are "fuzzy."

    Google built a pretty huge empire, on simple, fuzzy search.

  • tetris11 an hour ago

    Quotes should be enough to trigger an exact search. How we regressed from this is beyond me

      mikewarot 41 minutes ago

      Strong agree... now if only there were a way to specify "text" followed by a non-character. Some words I need to find turn out to be prefixes. 8(

  • rahulmax 7 minutes ago

    From a UX perspective, try exact first, then fuzzy. Add an AI-assisted search if you have the patience to build it, and a few bucks for the API cost.

    I did the exact + fuzzy pattern on a project and it was so satisfying to watch people finding it useful.

    Try it here. https://trustedgyn.com/ (a directory, for public good, hopefully you never have to use.) Make mistakes in the search bar and the model fixes it for you. For folks who are not native english, I found it helps a lot.

  • archonis 41 minutes ago

    Exact match results followed by fuzzy match would cover most use cases, and clear toggles would cover the remaing ones.

    It boggles the mind why this particular wheel keeps getting reinvented in octoganal shapes.

  • lukan 41 minutes ago

    Spotify's fuzzy search makes me want to do pirating again. Looking for a non mainstream artist can be really hard at times for no good reason than to appeal to the dumb average user. I even tried to build my own spotify player and going over the API - same shit (allmost).

      inigyou 19 minutes ago

      Spotify really wants you to play Spotify's own AI music, since they get to pay themselves the artist royalty.

  • NikolaNovak 20 minutes ago

    Oh man, I hate my area has switched to Facebook marketplace over Kijiji or even craigslist.

    Even when an ad exists with EXACT obscure model I'm looking for... It spits out pages of unrelated or semi related garbage before it may or may not show me what I'm actually looking for :-(

    Quotes, slashes, nothing seems to work. So I'm with you! Sometimes I just want an exact literal search.

  • yallpendantools 16 minutes ago

    Amen! I hate this trend towards fuzzy-first for everything. Deterministic should be default, fuzzy should be a special toggle.

    I'd say close to 90% of my daily searches could be served with exact matching. The next 8-9% could be solved by a little more deterministic sophistication (e.g., edit distance, equivalence classes for synonyms). Then the last 1-2% is when I really need some fuzzy magic; mostly to give me an idea what to do with obscure programming-related problems.

  • aeagentic 22 minutes ago

    Best search is windows where u get trash can Onlineshop when u look for the trash and terminal the movie if u look for the terminal

  • bawolff an hour ago

    > Not just HN

    Umm, does HN even have a search?

    Almost every site i've ever used the search of supported exact matches by putting the query in quote marks.

      mplanchard an hour ago

      Search input box is at the bottom, yes

        bawolff an hour ago

        Oh wow. Never noticed that before. Guess im blind.

        Although when i tested it just now it did seem to support exact matches using quotes.

        bdangubic 44 minutes ago

        absolute marvel of design. it is exactly where it should be!

  • soupspaces 22 minutes ago