Neutrino-1 8B

27 points | by handfuloflight 2 hours ago

3 comments

  • kamranjon 28 minutes ago

    There's a really interesting trend of labs using "proprietary" methods to convert existing models to a compressed ternary format.

    PrismML actually targeted the same Qwen 8b model and got it down to 1.75gb here: https://prismml.com/news/ternary-bonsai

    I wonder how proprietary it all is though, since the BitNet b1.58 paper has been out for a couple years now: https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.17764

    From the wikipedia on 1.58 bit llms: "BitNet derives its performance from being trained natively in 1.58 bit instead of being quantized from a full-precision model after training. Still, training is an expensive process, and it would be desirable to be able to somehow convert an existing model to 1.58 bits. In 2024, HuggingFace reported a way to gradually ramp up the 1.58-bit quantization in fine-tuning an existing model down to 1.58 bits."

    The section from huggingface is here: https://huggingface.co/blog/1_58_llm_extreme_quantization#fi...

    I just wonder how many of these labs are basically following the huggingface recipe here and possibly tweaking it and releasing models without huge training costs.

      Twirrim 19 minutes ago

      Independent testing of prismml suggest quite a capability drop off outside of their cherry picked benchmarks. I'll be curious to see what this model achieves though.

  • yborg 35 minutes ago

    Largely outperformed by Ternary-Bonsai-8B by their own chart, doesn't seem clear what their special sauce is here.