16 comments

  • piloto_ciego a minute ago

    I had a sci-fi plot sketched out in my head, I had Codex give a whack at it. It was "ok" - not the worst content I've ever read, not the best. It was "sufficient."

  • _matt_ 22 minutes ago

    Interesting analysis, but data "was collected between April 2023 and May 2024", so this predates even the release of GPT 4o.

  • MarkusQ 21 minutes ago

    > Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

    Why not? Journalists, lawyers and pundits of various stripes are already doing it. Why shouldn't readers?

      overgard 7 minutes ago

      Because nobody wants to read AI generated text?

        rhdunn 5 minutes ago

        Tell that to the LLM RP crowd.

        CookieCrisp 3 minutes ago

        You do not represent everyone

  • sriramgopalan an hour ago

    This is interesting. We have seen the internet change many fields and democratize them. For instance, only a few media outlets produced news stories and analysis, the rest of us consumed it. Blogging changed that.

    Only a few studios produced shows. With Youtube etc., many of the consumers could become producers themselves.

    If I read this correctly, books and fiction are headed in the same direction.

      idle_zealot 30 minutes ago

      I'm not sure about that comparison. For news and television your analogues of blogs and YouTube overcome a distribution bottleneck. Books have for a long time had a low barrier to entry for distribution and that fell further with the internet. There are mountains of amateur fiction and fanfiction online, requiring only an internet-connected device to produce and consume.

      LLM-written fiction as explored in the study is generally not published at all. It's treated more like an externalized imagination, a loop of general ideas fed into and expanded on or filled in by the machine with statistical averages. It more closely resembles a sandbox game in my view, a type of media distinct from anything before it in form, and even more distinct in function in that media is generally understood to be a vector of communication between people, and this is instead highly individual.

      Actually, it might be closer to say this is similar to a child playing pretend alone with their toys, except perhaps a bit less challenging in that creative roadblocks or narrative building is instantly abdicatable to the machine.

        ctoth 28 minutes ago

        > Actually, it might be closer to say this is similar to a child playing pretend alone with their toys, except perhaps a bit less challenging in that creative roadblocks or narrative building is instantly abdicatable to the machine.

        Wouldn't the obvious analogue be a video game? Especially one where you can edit the asset files (making your weapons super-strong, for instance?)

          idle_zealot a few seconds ago

          No, actually. In a video game the rules of engagement and the content you're engaging with are authored by other people. It's interactive media, but it's still a form of communication with boundaries and intent behind it. You can break those bounds with cheats or tools in the same way you can mark up a novel and write in your own ending with whiteout and a pen, but you're still fundamentally engaging with someone's creation.

          An LLM-authored interactive fiction is a sandbox with no author, with no boundaries and no intent. It's a canvas, and all limitations on content are self-imposed. It's closer to making a game than to playing one, but there is no game in the end that you can share. You're left with a transcript that only really appeals to you. It is not the game. The game fundamentally lives in the player's imagination, and the LLM is there to ease the realization of that imagination and, if I'm being uncharitable, do the hard part of synthesizing ideas and impulses into something semi-coherent, limiting the potential for the player to grow and develop creative skills.

      webstrand 39 minutes ago

      Web fiction, freely produced and distributed by "consumers" already existed prior to 2019. There are thousands of novels you can read that people produced for their own enjoyment, some even managed to make money off of it via patreon or Amazon's Kindle direct publishing.

        r3trohack3r 30 minutes ago

        This is slightly different than web fiction. Text generation is arguably the cheapest and most “ready” medium for content production in the current AI wave.

        You can speak a world into existence, entirely customized to you’re preferences, and interact with it.

        ctoth 31 minutes ago

        You should suggest some!

        I recommend Super Supportive[0].

        [0]: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/63759/super-supportive

      plastic-enjoyer 18 minutes ago

      > If I read this correctly, books and fiction are headed in the same direction.

      I don't really see how AI 'democratizes' fiction and book writing?

      overgard 8 minutes ago

      Why would you need to "democratize" fiction? There's literally zero cost of entry already. Fiction probably needs more gate keeping.

      zabriel_goss 39 minutes ago

      Books and fiction were some of the first to be democratized as a result of the internet.