Points vs comments. If there's lots of points on a story but only a few comments, it won't stick around.
There is an automated flame detection mechanism. Don't know how it works. probably some kind of count of downvoting of comments?
Users manually flag:
Most political stories are flame bait; the discussions are low quality.
Most politics is off topic, but if a story has been discussed and this one has, posting more about the same story with little change won't add much to the conversation.
Users do not want to see the same story permanently on show for discussion.
Emotions.
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You can find better and more answers by the site moderator @dang on why things slip off the front page by using the search box at the bottom of the page.
I like HN when it is leans toward "a place for everyone to talk about tech". Not so much when it derails into "a place for technologists to talk about anything".
I live in Europe and it's interesting to see intellectuals from the US and around the word that are primarily in the tech sector and known to have a broad knowledge of the world debate this topic. Since this could turn out to be the most destructive action of the century so far, considering world economy and maybe also the influence of big tech in europe, i think that is quite valid.
And moderators of big tech companies removing a political post from a front-page of an influential forum while it shows high interest, gratifies my intellectual curiosity even more!
But what to debate? Almost everyone agrees this is stupid, but nobody can do anything.
It's a bit interesting to read the best steelmans, then read how even they're flawed. Apparently the US not only already has a military base on Greenland, but is allowed to build more; and Greenland's resources cost more to extract than they can be sold. It appears there really is no benefit except to anger, scare, and annoy people. What other knowledge or insight did you find?
More like the American timeline i.e. "that's the other party I don't like." There is this continual suspicion that if you criticise one lot you must support the other, as if there are only two shows in town.
I agree. But when moderation is lenient and everything is allowed, you can't randomly decide to pull the plug on specific topics within a genre that's allowed.
I don't know whether these stories are pulled by HN moderators or flagged by lots of users but there is more than one motive for pulling/flagging stories.
One motive might be to avoid unproductive discussions - many of the comment threads on the Greenland story (which I voted up) were angry and very polarised.
Weird that the story you linked disappeared, and I definitely would expect that post to stay around as you mentioned. I have noticed a lot of aggressive flagging of political stories, which is frustrating given that the political landscape right now is extremely volatile and has big implications for everyone and everything. All the typical tech stuff is less interesting at this time.
As for YCombinator - not sure about them specifically but lots of tech billionaires are for invading Greenland or at least coercing them. Joe Lonsdale (Palantir co founder) recently said in an interview that he views it as frontier land (rather than someone else’s sovereign state). Probably the rare earth minerals would help investors involved in chips or AI.
Proof that you don't need wisdom to be a billionaire - the rich would benefit much more from stable societies and stable global order, rather than willingly rolling the world into an era of chaos.
It can be found on the 'active' page
https://news.ycombinator.com/active
The link to that page plus others can be found in the 'Lists' link in the footer
https://news.ycombinator.com/lists
Points vs comments. If there's lots of points on a story but only a few comments, it won't stick around.
There is an automated flame detection mechanism. Don't know how it works. probably some kind of count of downvoting of comments?
Users manually flag:
Most political stories are flame bait; the discussions are low quality.
Most politics is off topic, but if a story has been discussed and this one has, posting more about the same story with little change won't add much to the conversation.
Users do not want to see the same story permanently on show for discussion.
Emotions.
----
You can find better and more answers by the site moderator @dang on why things slip off the front page by using the search box at the bottom of the page.
I like HN when it is leans toward "a place for everyone to talk about tech". Not so much when it derails into "a place for technologists to talk about anything".
Paul Graham ruled Hacker News is for "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" tho
How does this gratify your intellectual curiosity?
I live in Europe and it's interesting to see intellectuals from the US and around the word that are primarily in the tech sector and known to have a broad knowledge of the world debate this topic. Since this could turn out to be the most destructive action of the century so far, considering world economy and maybe also the influence of big tech in europe, i think that is quite valid.
And moderators of big tech companies removing a political post from a front-page of an influential forum while it shows high interest, gratifies my intellectual curiosity even more!
But what to debate? Almost everyone agrees this is stupid, but nobody can do anything.
It's a bit interesting to read the best steelmans, then read how even they're flawed. Apparently the US not only already has a military base on Greenland, but is allowed to build more; and Greenland's resources cost more to extract than they can be sold. It appears there really is no benefit except to anger, scare, and annoy people. What other knowledge or insight did you find?
It's the russia in the 90s timeline. "I don't care about politics." if it's not aligned with the politics I like.
What's there to discuss about this? Who will it convince that the 1000 other things Trump has said and done hasn't?
This isn't even more outrageous than other things Trump has said. It would be if he actually invades, but he won't...
More like the American timeline i.e. "that's the other party I don't like." There is this continual suspicion that if you criticise one lot you must support the other, as if there are only two shows in town.
I agree. But when moderation is lenient and everything is allowed, you can't randomly decide to pull the plug on specific topics within a genre that's allowed.
I don't know whether these stories are pulled by HN moderators or flagged by lots of users but there is more than one motive for pulling/flagging stories.
One motive might be to avoid unproductive discussions - many of the comment threads on the Greenland story (which I voted up) were angry and very polarised.
Yes, the engineers should not be discussing the purpose of the tools they are making. That makes the process much more efficient
I get the impression that the front page algorithm likes upvotes but dislikes comments. Not sure if anyone knows?
People there wondering too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46670811
> Does YCombinator have any interest in this?
https://x.com/garrytan
Weird that the story you linked disappeared, and I definitely would expect that post to stay around as you mentioned. I have noticed a lot of aggressive flagging of political stories, which is frustrating given that the political landscape right now is extremely volatile and has big implications for everyone and everything. All the typical tech stuff is less interesting at this time.
As for YCombinator - not sure about them specifically but lots of tech billionaires are for invading Greenland or at least coercing them. Joe Lonsdale (Palantir co founder) recently said in an interview that he views it as frontier land (rather than someone else’s sovereign state). Probably the rare earth minerals would help investors involved in chips or AI.
Proof that you don't need wisdom to be a billionaire - the rich would benefit much more from stable societies and stable global order, rather than willingly rolling the world into an era of chaos.
Covid and Trump pretty much showed that this is not true. Chaos helps the rich more than stability (what we had before)
Lockdown rather than Covid. Covid was supposedly around for six months (or more) before all that began.