The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them.
These tariffs must be becoming self defeating. If they get imposed on a whim what is the point of avoiding them, only to be told you need to jump higher next time. Surely the answer must be to trade with anyone else and write off the USA.
You cannot negotiate with a bully. The EU should have never backed down so easily before. I hope someone will soon find some balls and not let the US walk all over everyone
We do. This would presumably be added on top of the existing ones. The only communication so far comes from a Trump Truthsocial post with its typical lack of clarity. Lots of bed ads though.
Funny, we are are beginning to think the same, why do we need you? (The truth, of course is that everyone wins when trade is open/free.)
It appears to be a combination of racism, “crabs in the pot” mentality, tribalism and in group motivations, and people looking for another group to look down on because they have no opportunity ahead of them between now and death. Happiness is reality minus expectations.
His supporters still say “It’s not great but I’d vote for him again.” Well, the unfortunate news is he’s near end of life and they footgunned their own economic opportunity light cone. The global economy is going to route around the US accordingly, because it cannot be trusted to trade as an adult vs a bully. They will continue to have their vote and mental model regardless of rationality and logical reasoning. All you can do as a nation state counterparty is defend against military action and disconnect economically.
Same vibes as "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." —- LBJ
Trump did racist dog whistling, and the US mass media has been captured by oligarchs, so it wasn't reported honestly or completely. A surprising large portion of the US electorate is racist, and the US voting practices amplify exactly those voter's influence.
It was a bad election cycle for incumbents worldwide. Many Americans are hurting from the cost of living and wanted a change. I know many who are definitely not racist (in interracial marriages/relationships even) who voted for Trump just on the hope for an improved economy.
Denmark, Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, the UK, the Netherlands and Finland to face a 10% tariff beginning February 1. Trump said tariffs will be in place until "a deal is reached" on Greenland. [...] Trump added that if no resolution is reached until June 1 this year, the tariffs will jump to 25%.
As I Swede, I must say this list of countries are the countries I love the most in Europe (well, I like the weather in Spain and Italy, but I mean politically).
I would like our countries to integrate more, maybe with a common army. In the Nordics we already have begun to integrate our Air Forces to a common Nordic Air Force. Why not extend that to UK, France, Netherlands and Germany? These countries together could form a quite powerful army, air force etc. that could safeguard Europe against external threats.
The Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto found the operation superfluous and ridiculous, calling it a joke, and urged that it be carried out under NATO coordination.
It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split.
Willful misunderstanding of NATO. The US is committed to defend Greenland as it is now or if it’s theirs. So, I guess, they’ve left NATO just didn’t leave a forwarding address.
Time to tell the bully to do quaint anatomical actions with mobile baked goods.
Fairly simple really. Greenland decided they wanted it and that they still want it. They are sovereign and free to decide otherwise. It is not a claim.
Nato - Article 2
The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them.
These tariffs must be becoming self defeating. If they get imposed on a whim what is the point of avoiding them, only to be told you need to jump higher next time. Surely the answer must be to trade with anyone else and write off the USA.
You cannot negotiate with a bully. The EU should have never backed down so easily before. I hope someone will soon find some balls and not let the US walk all over everyone
if they back down on this one then orange-adolf will go after canada
EU politicians like Merz and von der Leyen are pushovers.
It's inevitable that an "almost-anyone-but-the-US" free-ish trading coalition of countries will appear. EU trade deal teams, go!
US spelling bee kids will be great at spelling P-A-R-I-A-H.
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think this is a pretty obvious demonstration that the 1776 republic is no longer fit for purpose
why is the congress allowing this to continue?
in any parliamentary democracy this cretin would have been gone by now
"in any parliamentary democracy this cretin would have been gone by now"
Right. The West's not seen anything like this since the Reich's march into the Sudetenland.
One can only hope Europe has enough gumption to confront the bully long enough for US citizens to awake and correct the situation.
The last thing we need now is gutless Appeasement from European states à la Chamberlain.
Useful for context (individual submission was flagged):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_hybrid_warfare_agains...
Didn't they already have tariffs ? Also, why should we care, what do the US have that's made domestically ?
We do. This would presumably be added on top of the existing ones. The only communication so far comes from a Trump Truthsocial post with its typical lack of clarity. Lots of bed ads though.
Funny, we are are beginning to think the same, why do we need you? (The truth, of course is that everyone wins when trade is open/free.)
So more financial burdens for US citisens? Poor Americans. Why did they vote for this lunatic?
He won because he promised to deport illegal immigrants. His voters thinks he is delivering.
It appears to be a combination of racism, “crabs in the pot” mentality, tribalism and in group motivations, and people looking for another group to look down on because they have no opportunity ahead of them between now and death. Happiness is reality minus expectations.
His supporters still say “It’s not great but I’d vote for him again.” Well, the unfortunate news is he’s near end of life and they footgunned their own economic opportunity light cone. The global economy is going to route around the US accordingly, because it cannot be trusted to trade as an adult vs a bully. They will continue to have their vote and mental model regardless of rationality and logical reasoning. All you can do as a nation state counterparty is defend against military action and disconnect economically.
Same vibes as "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." —- LBJ
(derived from first principles)
Trump did racist dog whistling, and the US mass media has been captured by oligarchs, so it wasn't reported honestly or completely. A surprising large portion of the US electorate is racist, and the US voting practices amplify exactly those voter's influence.
It was a bad election cycle for incumbents worldwide. Many Americans are hurting from the cost of living and wanted a change. I know many who are definitely not racist (in interracial marriages/relationships even) who voted for Trump just on the hope for an improved economy.
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Denmark, Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, the UK, the Netherlands and Finland to face a 10% tariff beginning February 1. Trump said tariffs will be in place until "a deal is reached" on Greenland. [...] Trump added that if no resolution is reached until June 1 this year, the tariffs will jump to 25%.
These are most of the countries that sent military forces to Greenland during the past two days for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance. The US was also invited.
As I Swede, I must say this list of countries are the countries I love the most in Europe (well, I like the weather in Spain and Italy, but I mean politically).
I would like our countries to integrate more, maybe with a common army. In the Nordics we already have begun to integrate our Air Forces to a common Nordic Air Force. Why not extend that to UK, France, Netherlands and Germany? These countries together could form a quite powerful army, air force etc. that could safeguard Europe against external threats.
Same, though, as a Dane, I must express preference for Norway, Sweden and Finland (and Iceland), obviously :)
I hope his antics do nothing except push us closer together.
At the same time we need to realize that the US actions are clearly meant to tear the EU apart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance
The Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto found the operation superfluous and ridiculous, calling it a joke, and urged that it be carried out under NATO coordination.
It's just that I also want that split (north vs south, sort of). The EU of today is dysfunctional, largely because of this immense cultural split.
Oh absolutely, I adore most every country of the EU, maybe except Hungary and recently... Slovakia.
But in principle, I think the EU, some voting forms, and a federal army is necessary if we desire any degree of self-determination.
You guys are all really purist with your shade of white.
Maybe something like a constitutional republic of independent states?
The only way to ensure one political party doesn't seize full and complete control over the entire thing and bend its will to exclusively their goals.
Yeah maybe some system with checks and balances.
Willful misunderstanding of NATO. The US is committed to defend Greenland as it is now or if it’s theirs. So, I guess, they’ve left NATO just didn’t leave a forwarding address.
Time to tell the bully to do quaint anatomical actions with mobile baked goods.
I don’t understand where Denmark’s claim to Greenland comes from in the first place.
Can someone who is unhappy about this fill me in on why Denmark should have it?
Fairly simple really. Greenland decided they wanted it and that they still want it. They are sovereign and free to decide otherwise. It is not a claim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_and_the_European_Uni...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indi...
Why should USA have Hawaii or California?
You can read up on it yourself.