5 comments

  • burnerToBetOut an hour ago

        >… when people say “culture,” what does that really mean?
    
    
    I think of an organization's or a team's culture as the undocumented practices that the org or team all follow. Just to name a few…

        1. Interpersonal interaction styles
    
        2. Communication styles
    
        3. What's incentivized
    
        4. What behaviors are acceptable/unacceptable
    
        …
    
    You could have a "blame culture". Teams like that are incentivized to point the finger and look for convenient scapegoats.

    You could have a culture that incentivizes "Psychological safety". Meaning people are allowed to speak up and disagree with stuff without fear of being fired.

    You could have a "dysfunctional" culture. One example being where the norm is for individual members to convince other members that they are the smartest person in the room.

        > What actually makes people hate their jobs over time? Is it pay/people/culture?
    
    That's bound to be unique for each person. But it's not unreasonable to guess that _in general_ what ultimately makes people hate their job is…

      • A person and their team value different things
    
    
    An employee might place a high value on respectfulness. But a coworker can't even spell the word.

    Another employee might consider software development as a "craft" and take pride in what they deliver. But the organization/team values "move fast and break things…tech debt be damned!" above everything else.

  • vunderba 2 hours ago

    I always break jobs down into four factors:

    Knowledge – Am I building skills or knowledge that have value outside this specific company (algorithms, math, systems design, etc.), or am I just learning a bunch of internal trivia that won’t matter anywhere else?

    Benefits – Financial compensation and benefits can make up for a surprising amount of dissatisfaction.

    People – Do I like the people I work and interact with? Do we get along and have anything in common?

    Laudability – Is the work noble, meaningful, or interesting? Highly dependent on the individual. For me, it’s education; for others, it might be science, healthcare, yadda yadda yada.

    I'm usually reasonably satisfied if a job meets two out of the four.

      agcat 2 hours ago

      and company culture does that matter at all?

        burnerToBetOut 39 minutes ago

            > …a long stint as a founder…
        
        I perceive the typical "startup culture" to be one where heroics are the norm…

            1. You're expected to work 10 hour days
        
            2. You're expected to do the jobs of 3 people
        
            3. You might not get paid on schedule
        
            …
        
        That would be an absolute cultural mismatch for me.
        vunderba an hour ago

        I’m honestly not sure I could answer this one, I’ve never really worked at a company that pushed a unified culture. At most of the places I’ve worked, the teams were pretty siloed and insulated, so each team ended up having its own “culture.”