12 comments

  • Pet_Ant 12 minutes ago

    All this rigor for a country without an actual formalised constitution. I mean, maybe the government should work on that first and make sure it has a right to work there first?

    > Unlike in most countries, no official attempt has been made to codify ... thus it is known as an uncodified constitution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kin...

      dgxyz 9 minutes ago

      Based on recent events, I wouldn't suggest a constitution makes much of a difference to an adversarial government.

        littlestymaar 7 minutes ago

        This. The illusion that you could fend off tyranny with a piece of paper was always a bit ridiculous, and it shows.

      bogdan 8 minutes ago

      I'm sorry but how is this relevant? Or did you just recently learn this and thought it's "interesting" to share?

  • noodlesUK 23 minutes ago

    It sounds like they've dropped the digital ID part being mandatory, but not the digital right-to-work checks being mandatory. I suspect that the UK will end up building something like the US's E-Verify programme, which allows a number of documents to be checked against authoritative sources. It really wouldn't be that hard to build a service that in the first instance allowed you to generate a share code with a GBR passport much the same way people can generate share codes with their drivers licenses or UKVI accounts.

    What I have a problem with is just how fragmented and broken the UK immigration system is when you have the misfortune of coming into contact with it. It's (like many such large systems worldwide) a set of policies and rules that have accumulated over time into something that is pathologically poorly thought out. I'm going through the process of renewing my spouse's visa (I'm British), and it's fractally awful -- we've just had a snarky email from our landlord who is worried that the right-to-rent permission is expiring, but it's not possible to apply for a renewal for the visa prior to 28 days before expiry of her current visa. I meet all the criteria to sponsor my suppose for renewal, but the evidentiary burden is insane (I've collected 400+ pages of documents so far). Nobody wants this. It is very expensive and difficult (probably >£10k per person until permanent residency in fees, not including legal expenses) to be compliant even if you meet the criteria, which just leads people falling out of status (to borrow an American term). The government (of all stripes) tries to be "tough" but the only lever it knows how to pull is to make the rules stricter, not making them better enforced or align with some meaningful policy agenda.

    This farcical situation extends into the UK's broken citizenship model where there are 6 different types of nationality, none of which give any rights you can't build through a hodgepodge of other different statuses. As far as I know the UK is the only country in the world that permits dual nationality with itself!

    A government online account which can generate verifiable credentials would probably be helpful in a broad sense but it wouldn't cure bad policy which is rampant in the UK immigration sector. I'd much rather have some kind of digital ID that's clear and authoritative rather than just hoping that Experian has my details right with no recourse if they're wrong.

  • andy_ppp 22 minutes ago

    You know the UK desperately needs to spend billions on a never ending software project with some awful agencies building the impossible.

  • everyday7732 9 minutes ago

    This line was particluarly interesting:

    "... Labour MPs are growing increasingly frustrated with the government's U-turns.

    Some had already been wary of defending controversial government policies to their constituents because they feared that the policy would inevitably be reversed."

    which implies that the MPs are openly admitting that they don't state their personal opinions, merely parrot the party line, but are frustrated when they are required to abruptly change the things they claim to believe in.

    What a farce. Members of parliament should have their OWN fucking views about things, and defend or debate those views on behalf of the people they represent.

      OgsyedIE 3 minutes ago

      Those people get deselected by the NEC.

  • IshKebab 20 minutes ago

    Shame. This made a lot of sense.

    > existing checks, using documents such as biometric passports, will move fully online by 2029.

    Well I guess that's good at least. I imagine they'll just assign people "digital passports" at some point and you just pay to get a paper copy.

  • AlexandrB 36 minutes ago

    For now.

    For whatever reason, Tony Blair's think tank is obsessed with this idea[1]. As I understand he still has a lot of influence over British politics.

    [1] https://institute.global/digital-id-what-is-it-and-how-it-wo...

      vimda 26 minutes ago

      If you ignore all the big red flags, it _is_ an attractive and convenient idea. One ID for all my government services? Useful. The devil, as always, is in the details

      scrlk 28 minutes ago

      > For whatever reason, Tony Blair's think tank is obsessed with this idea.

      Probably considers it as unfinished business from his administration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006