14 comments

  • eastbayjake 10 hours ago

    It's such a broad question... are you a consumer or a merchant? Are you doing a card-present payment (eg swiping at a store POS) or a card-not-present payment (eg entering your credit card number on an ecommerce site)? Are you buying/selling a high-risk item? How much do you care about privacy? How much do you care about rewards (if you're a consumer) or processing fees (if you're a merchant)?

      vednig 10 hours ago

      let's wind it down

      of-course, it's seemingly a card not present payment, because it's digital payments infra unless you keep a card reader present to convert it to, your processor via bank to complete txn.

      yeah, it is different for all and a lot of things come into account payer can be anyone consumer or merchant, anyone who would like to do a txn.

      but what has been your pattern, i'm curious?

  • JohnFen 11 hours ago

    US: I use whatever method the party I'm paying is requiring, unless it's cryptocurrency. I don't do cryptocurrency.

      vednig 11 hours ago

      so, if you'd have to choose between Bank/Card, Venmo, Klarna or Paypal you'd say ?

        JohnFen 11 hours ago

        I'm familiar with Venmo and Paypal, so I'd pick either of those just because they're known to me. I'm not opposed to Klarna, but I know nothing about it and so would avoid the learning curve and account creation if I had another option. I'd go with a card if I had to, but that's higher friction because I'd need to set up a temporary throwaway card to do that.

          vednig 10 hours ago

          appreciate it thanks

  • stop50 10 hours ago

    SEPA

    - costs next to nothing - i have an standartised api for end users via FINTS and businesses via EBICS

      vednig 10 hours ago

      do you find Stripe or Paypal checkout experience faster and better ?

  • toomuchtodo 11 hours ago

    TransferWise

      vednig 11 hours ago

      do you find yourself to often use the card or wallet ? also, do you also use wise for domestic txns?

        toomuchtodo 10 hours ago

        Zelle or Venmo for dollar P2P transfers, Wise for international (both P2P or using local payment rails if possible, SEPA in Europe for example). App whenever possible vs wallet or card. Failing all of that, a US credit card or cash. My optimization is lowest cost possible between me and target entity receiving value transfer.

        The ideal is an app that gets you as close to Pix [1], UPI [2], and SEPA [3] as you can for low or no cost value movement on instant payment rails [4].

        [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)

        [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Payments_Interface

        [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

        [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_payment

          vednig 10 hours ago

          > optimization is lowest cost possible between me and target entity receiving value transfer

          it's definitely an interesting perspective as a consumer

            toomuchtodo 10 hours ago

            Payment cost inflates product and service costs, and is a tax on those who pay cash and don't receive cash back rebates. You have to cut out the middlemen who are skimming the economy for little to no value. You can move up to $10M in value in the US on FedNow instant payment rails for a few pennies, instantly (~20 second SLA 24/7/365), for example [1].

            Now, with regards to your specific inquiry, your unsophisticated consumer probably cares more about points and cash back. How do you disincentivize that? As a merchant, you offer free instant payment options and surcharge the customer to use more expensive payment rails (credit cards, for example). At least in the US, we're on our way in that regard (Walmart is offering pay by bank using instant payment rails to avoid billions in interchange costs [2]).

            You might find this latest CFPB report helpful [3], as well as this McKinsey report on payments [4] for further reading. I'd also recommend the Fintech Takes mailing list [5].

            [1] FedNow Service will raise transaction limit to $10 million to meet increased demand, unlocking higher-value use cases - https://www.frbservices.org/news/fed360/issues/091625/fednow... - September 16th, 2025

            [2] Walmart Plans Instant Bank Payments, Cutting Out Card Networks - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41593450 - September 2024

            [3] CFPB: The Consumer Credit Card Market Report to Congress - https://web.archive.org/web/20250601000000*/https://files.co... - December 2025

            [4] The 2025 McKinsey Global Payments Report: Competing systems, contested outcomes - https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/financial-services/our-i... - September 26th, 2025

            [5] https://fintechtakes.com/

  • eevmanu 8 hours ago

    ..: Instant QR-based Account-to-Account (A2A) Payment System