33 comments

  • glerk an hour ago

    > whistleblower

    This is… an interesting spin.

      mingus88 an hour ago

      Yeah, cooperative testimony after the fact does not a whistleblower make

      > She has agreed to a 10-year ban from holding executive roles in public or crypto companies.

      Yeah, I don’t think this will be hard for her. Anyone involved in FTX is radioactive. Whoever negotiated this for her as a concession is brilliant.

      Aurornis an hour ago

      I’ve never seen invezz.com before, but this whole article feels oddly favorable to Caroline Ellison

        fruitworks an hour ago

        the pic they use also seems AI generated

  • runjake an hour ago

    The image header appears to be an AI-generated and certainly doesn't look like Ellison, despite the image's name.

    It doesn't bode well for the rest of the article.

      pants2 30 minutes ago

      Yep, aside from the fact that photography isn't allowed in US Federal Court, the most obvious sign is that she and the microphone are facing away from the judge - the positioning makes no sense.

      That's the classic AI photo issue where "man looking at the moon" is a man looking at the camera with the moon behind him.

      mingus88 22 minutes ago

      Could be, but I’m sure the past few years have aged her pretty severely. She’s 31 now and the later ones are city miles.

  • chollida1 an hour ago

    > She has agreed to a 10-year ban from holding executive roles in public or crypto companies.

    Judging by how Alemeda research was provided with as much money as they wanted with zero interest rate attached and she still ran the company into the ground, I don't think the ban will hurt her too much.

    This really goes to show that most hedge funds are successful because of the infrastructure built around them rather than the people.

    You need both to be successful, but good systems and infrastructure trump good people most of the time. RenTech is the best example of this.

    No one is going to trust her to run a Baskin Robbins, much less put her in a role with any responsibility now.

      kirubakaran an hour ago

      > No one is going to trust her to ...

      I wish I had your optimism:

      > Adam Neumann’s Flow raises over $100M at $2.5B valuation Backed by a16z, the ex-WeWork CEO's real estate platform targets global expansion. (2025)

      https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/h1uevrw1xe

        JumpCrisscross 25 minutes ago

        I feel like it’s still debatable whether Neumann committed fraud or stupidity. Bankman-Fried, on the other hand, cooked the books.

      dheera an hour ago

      > She has agreed to a 10-year ban from holding executive roles in public or crypto companies.

      So you can hold an executive role in a wholly owned private subsidiary of a public company, or hold a role in a Cayman Island company instead of a US company and have the Cayman entity buy the US entity. Rules like this don't actually do anything.

  • tptacek an hour ago

    She was a model cooperator and was sentenced only to 2 years, so this isn't a surprising outcome.

      rasz an hour ago

      But she was never a whistleblower. Whistleblower is someone who goes to feds, not someone forced in court to cooperate.

        tptacek an hour ago

        No, of course not; she was a felon, and was convicted of felonies and sentenced to federal prison.

          michaelt 34 minutes ago

          Once again proving that stealing $20 carries a longer sentence than white collar criminals stealing $200,000,000.

            JumpCrisscross 23 minutes ago

            > proving that stealing $20 carries a longer sentence than white collar criminals stealing $200,000,000

            Who has been prosecuted for stealing $20?

            tptacek 29 minutes ago

            It in fact does not.

              allyouseed 7 minutes ago

              It in fact does, but this fact appears outside your sphere of interest in defending.

              > suspected that Floyd had used a counterfeit $20 bill

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd#Murder

                tptacek 6 minutes ago

                Floyd was never charged, let alone convicted, for stealing $20, and we're talking about federal crimes here.

                  allyouseed 4 minutes ago

                  Polish that turd all you want.

                  Why you want to remains a mystery to me.

      skullone an hour ago

      But it shows that there's really no penalties for the rich to commit billions in fraud

        mikkupikku an hour ago

        Bankman-Fried is doing 25 years in prison. That's the average prison sentence for murder. The message being sent is that you should turn on your partners in crime now and save yourself a lot of suffering in the long run.

          jahnu 41 minutes ago

          I think people have no handle on what years and decades of life lost to prison means. The numbers are just abstract to them.

        JumpCrisscross 39 minutes ago

        > it shows that there's really no penalties for the rich to commit billions in fraud

        She’s a felon, banned “from holding executive roles in public or crypto companies,” penniless and probably fighting lawsuits for the rest of her life.

        amanaplanacanal an hour ago

        Not as long as you are willing to roll on the other guy. This has always been the way.

        ralph84 an hour ago

        It's more about who you defrauded. Bernie Madoff died in prison because he defrauded other rich people.

        Rebelgecko an hour ago

        As long as they have someone "worse" to snitch on

  • whycome an hour ago

    Whistleblower?

  • SilverElfin an hour ago

    I don’t see her as any less guilty than Sam. If I recall, she directly was involved in the movement of people’s funds into Alameda - that was not something she got tricked into by some separate criminal mastermind. That’s her. Even if she cooperated, she should be serving 10+ years. Otherwise what’s the deterrent when you can mostly get away with large white collar crimes.

    While we’re at it, Musk should also face charges for related fraudulent claims about self driving, battery tech that went nowhere, robotaxis, and other things. But he likely won’t. In general, these crimes are treated far too leniently for the rich and connected.

      bragr 32 minutes ago

      The counter argument is if you don't incentivize flipping enough, it is the prisoners' dilemma: the option of everyone keeping their mouth shut and potentially going free is too attractive compared to flipping.

  • zoklet-enjoyer an hour ago

    >FTX fraudster Caroline Ellison set for early release next month

    Fixed it

  • constantcrying 40 minutes ago

    It is just so insane that the web is just full of 100% AI generated slop.

    The title image is AI and presumably the text is AI generated, this appears to be true for everything on that website. Just 100%, everything AI generated, likely zero human oversight and fully automated.

    And it even has auto translation which turns the whole page into literal nonsense, but surely looks good for SEO.