They had an invite only one in the bard days before it was rebranded to gemini. You didn't just need to get the invite link but actually link your discord to your google so I didn't bother.
Just goes to show that google's attempts at chat have been a big flop and even though google chat exists they don't use it.
I didn't get far with this because it wants access to my entire Google Drive, which I declined. Credit to Google for even offering the chance to say "no", I suppose.
I think the concern is that this might somehow enable a privacy policy they weren't aware of that permits training over the entire Drive. However, I think the primary reason for this is that these products generally would like to store data on the user's Google Drive but Google Drive doesn't have super granular permission structure to be able to set up a partitioned directory for the app alone. I actually think that might be a good thing to work on next?
Discussion when launched 5 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44681786
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I’m surprised to see Google directing people to Discord, do they do that for other products?
They had an invite only one in the bard days before it was rebranded to gemini. You didn't just need to get the invite link but actually link your discord to your google so I didn't bother.
Just goes to show that google's attempts at chat have been a big flop and even though google chat exists they don't use it.
I recall them taking about one for NotebookLM.
They did for the new copilot agent builder products, thats where I get most early invites.
Jules, their cloud AI agent.
What is this AI mini app?
Do this make an actual production Flutter app or something?
First thing I thought was “oh, neat, another google product they will kill”.
"Platform roulette" was my first thought. Then I realised the chance of winning on this gamble is approximately nil.
One more Google product destined to die!
Cute . I think we're all fine with anything that remotely threatens Vercel.
"The horror, the horror..."
Problem I see with this being "codeless" is now Google owns everything. They can just hold your app hostage at any price point.
I didn't get far with this because it wants access to my entire Google Drive, which I declined. Credit to Google for even offering the chance to say "no", I suppose.
Why does it need that?
Opal isn’t just peeking at Drive, it’s using it as its backend. Outputs get saved as Drive files so they persist, can be shared, and open in Docs, etc
The gotcha is the permission scope can be pretty broad (read/write or metadata across Drive), so it’s worth checking what you actually granted.
So you trust Google with the data in your google drive, but you don't trust Google (Opal Team) with the data in your drive?
They need a place to store data, Google Drive is a place for that. Have you used NotebookLM or such which do the same sort of thing?
The Google drive is also hosted by Google on Google's servers. They already have access to everything in there.
I think the concern is that this might somehow enable a privacy policy they weren't aware of that permits training over the entire Drive. However, I think the primary reason for this is that these products generally would like to store data on the user's Google Drive but Google Drive doesn't have super granular permission structure to be able to set up a partitioned directory for the app alone. I actually think that might be a good thing to work on next?
It wants to add it to the training set ... (guess)